When analyzing the history of the education of the communication, Sources Navarrese has spoken of three models of education (the journalistic model, the model humanist and the one of the social scientist); in fact they are imaginary than in the institutions they understand what the 50 mg tramadol field demand: desires, sum 50 mg tramadol aspects indicated institutionally but 50 mg tramadol introyectan where what prevails it is only aspirations, good desires, general pill tramadol on the social problems that have 50 mg tramadol in concise scientific development. Although in the proposal 50 mg tramadol the UACM, we have tried to generate what we called a fourth model, we do not think that they are only four in the education of the communication. These 50 mg tramadol models have variants and crossings, in addition that cannot be identified independent of the institutions, their variants, histories and influences. In one more a nearer reflection we have hefted the hypothesis of a model more than culturológico, of planning in which the component of the diagnosis, 50 mg tramadol evaluation of the practical one is the conductive axis of the preparation in the organizing element of the race.

In official documents of the UACM the importance of the public dimension of the university is emphasized, pill tramadol is 50 mg tramadol say, the service that must give to all the population without distinction some, as much order tramadol without prescription ages, religions, sex, capacities motorboats, Public etc. does not mean simply that the people of limited resources have access, means that pill tramadol combines to all type of people without putting in front particular characteristic, and considering to all equals in rights; the public talks about to social in his heterogeneity and contradiction, to the entailment with the community not only by the service to the direct adressees (young, students), but all it, the University offers by means of her functions, projects, a service but cannot be reduced to its logic and operation to a commercial or solely economic rationality. The documents indicate to the aspiration of the university autonomy with respect to the distance of the political or economic powers other people's to the knowledge and the cultural one.

In order to aspire to this type of more democratic structure to the order tramadol without prescription of the university, this one is order tramadol without prescription by academic units, calls Academy which work under the criterion of colegialidad, which supposes rotating responsibilities within the Academies; in this way, it is 50 mg tramadol to eliminate the administrative criterion of the position 50 mg tramadol any principle of coordinator (for that reason the pill tramadol are rotating) so that as far as possible the tendencies are diluted to the establishment of canonries.

The curricular structure 50 mg tramadol 50 mg tramadol 50 mg tramadol tries the total accomplishment order tramadol without prescription the flexibility that implies not only opening in the election of courses but in the modalities of degree like it is the possibility of 50 mg tramadol titles or options that not necessarily end at the degree (there are graduates with different axes, technicians). 50 mg tramadol integral flexibility as much supposes mental, organizational an aspiration, temporary, space, that allows to degree and much greater combination between the formative options that the institution offers. Within the integral system, it is not possible to be avoided what evaluation is called, that is known here like certification system, this is main valuation of the qualitative dimension that is not realised order tramadol without prescription the professor that gives the course, but by 50 mg tramadol committee, of this form is tried to eliminate the discretionary dimension of an individual decision; and finally the organization of the body of professors in associated Academies, which deposits to the 50 mg tramadol surroundings on an attempt to at least create surroundings for co-determination, the collective, associated production, etc. I mention these aspects of form very accelerated, is merely indicative of some peculiarities of this model and the immediate context of the institutional project.

Nowadays (September of 2005) the university continues growing, almost 5000 students in 50 mg tramadol years, 4 establishments located mainly in zones of marginality and little cultural development in the city. Until now the university presents/displays an optimistic vision for the following lustrum, which in this work is not called 50 mg tramadol to question or to review to us; he is not either objective of these lines to clarify and to make commentaries critics on a project that has the reservation of its extreme youth. We have only wanted to give this context that allows to the reader a university him that in principle has allowed a considerable degree from freedom to its academic ones so that they form rather less frequents in the educative supply and with irrevocable social vocation, in a space where in some sense it is 50 mg tramadol to return to think known aspects to give a new directionality him. Within these scenes we presented/displayed two debates of the project.

On the debates
When developing the races pill tramadol the university, later fit supposition that quickly the communication race has been placed between the favorites and nowadays it is second, - paradoxicalally of political science. The academy of Communication and Culture arose 50 mg tramadol the beginning of the university, in September of 2001. The request of the director Perez Rocha pill tramadol the first equipment, was 50 mg tramadol try not to pill tramadol much repeat some of the schemes of the universities in labels as in direction; it was necessary to in detail review the history of the institutionalization of the academic field. The equipment thought that this new approach does not present/display in 50 mg tramadol studies would be the cultural 50 mg tramadol that in addition recovered the preoccupation of a university very near the citizenship, to the problems and phenomena of the city where it is, besides pill tramadol an important component in the configuration of the field of knowledge in communication. Now it would be necessary to give consistency, justification, nexus him with the historical tradition and some 50 mg tramadol degree I tie with the social community. There was an equipment in charge to formulate the plan of studies, by the principle of colegialidad of the Academy, was shared responsibility of all the professors who went 50 mg tramadol to the training program. When growing this equipment during 2003 and mainly 2004, the debates acquired plus the profile of group discussions that of work group with which it began; it was difficult to elaborate a curriculum enters more than 10 professors, so the work to four of them was delegated, even though would be necessary that in all the significant decisions of change, Academy was discussed with the rest of a.

The process 50 mg tramadol selection 50 mg tramadol the debate axes and the discussions were beside the point interesting; unfortunately, nondevoid of tension and differences. This agenda had pill tramadol ample shade that went from the semantic questions of some terms (culture, language, means, society, knowledge, academy) until thematic axes more complexes like the following: (a) the problems on uni, pluri, trans disciplinary nature of the communication, the subject on the more 50 mg tramadol nominal letterhead to name to the studies of communication, the intersection communication social sciences or humanities, the challenges of social sciences 50 mg tramadol the region; (b) the production of the knowledge in Latin America, the place of the intellectuals at a time of transition, the critic to the opposition of the not legitimized legitimized intellectual knowledge and; (c) the cultural field, what the pos-colonial idea of culture, debates, the cultural approaches in communication, the critical dimension and political of the learning and the knowledge in the cultural thought and 50 mg tramadol curricular Design in curricula communication, world-wide tendencies of the 50 mg tramadol new proposals, social education and sciences in the era of the globalisation, comparative analyses of curricula, academic field of the communication in Mexico and curricular design.

Of this set of axes and debates, I have order tramadol without prescription some points to share with the readers of Reason and Word. At heart of them - of the audacity to do a work here to respect-I could see how aged subjects but 50 mg tramadol underlay on the one hand, not 50 mg tramadol in the work units it argues, no longer to reach a conclusion but to update our marks of interpretation. One occurs to the communication and its practices like something already seated that does not need more founding than the own legitimacy granted by the labor market.

From the names or letterheads to the scientific project on the communication
The name of the communication race could seem something dull if not outside terrible that a single subject agglutinates such amount of names. Benassini (1999) already speaks of more than a twenty, but according to a more recent study of the Independent University of Chiapas, they exceed the fifty (only in Mexico). The name of the degree has been with the name Sciences of the Communication; soon it has been divided in labor areas (publicity, journalism, means, television, cinema), disciplines (marketing research and communication, communication education).

In the case 50 mg tramadol our work party, although we from the beginning knew that the name would be communication and culture to some seemed necessary to us a greater debate on this difference between science of the communication, sciences of the communication, studies of communication, like part of the diagnosis and the location in this institutional world of our profile of debit. We did not think about the name of comunicología, but by contagion of one of the external advisers who at the beginning of the same project (2002-2003) were coordinating of the program of doctorate of the Veracruzana University (Dr. Jesus Galindo), two members of the equipment we 50 mg tramadol to reflect our practice of investigation-teaching and founding of the race from the hypotheses than we denominated towards a possible comunicología, which in essence tried to discuss on the possibility of a science of the 50 mg tramadol (in singular). Adverb of name, demonstrated that beyond the 50 mg tramadol at least, which interested was to maintain the debate to me, like part of a reflective process envelope which we taught in communication and how the logical levels articulate that component the curricular pill tramadol In addition, before the imperative to propose enmeshes curricular and to justify it in front of a group of academic, the discussion between the possibility or of a science of the communication did not seem to us of utility.

The term comunicología 50 mg tramadol its history in its true creator, the famous publicist Eulalio would incorporate it to Ferrer as of 1992 in the Real Dictionary of the Language, of form more extensive Ferrer has a work published in 1982 where it introduces the question (Cf. 50 mg tramadol 1982, 2001). In Europe for 50 mg tramadol the term comunicología has the impression of being 50 mg tramadol Latin American, and in Spain 50 mg tramadol of the communication at least prefer the notion. In pill tramadol comunicology does not exist the term; research or communication enjoys pill tramadol popularity mass order tramadol without prescription studies. The comunicología enjoys greater use in our region, in 50 mg tramadol sense supposes a peripheral bet - as to some members of the Academy they liked to make emphasis in the debate on the cultural approach -, that obvious recovers originating contributions of the center, but in a scheme that not always to the center seems to him suitable far from it the convincing thing.

The difference between Studies of Communication and Comunicología is that for first practically there is no necessity to make a debate, can enter any aspect that from scientific, practical, empirical, pill tramadol a point of view speaks on the communication; whereas the second name 50 mg tramadol seems to demand one more a more detailed reflection to us, which would have its total accomplishment in an integral knowledge and a way particularly from the communication to see the world; an aspiration to the integral study of the order tramadol without prescription processes, interchanges between levels, dimensions, instances applicable to all organization with capacity to produce/to process data; it can 50 mg tramadol means, but also to the alive beings, the social 50 mg tramadol If the Academy in principle wanted to surpass the main vice of you studies in communication: to reduce them to means, this proposal seemed suggestive to start off from this place (and not from the historical convention of the media or means) for the curricular organization.

The question order tramadol without prescription order tramadol without prescription name is not something dull since it is associated to the founding of the race, to the profile of the debit, the interpretation that has become of the social needs pill tramadol later to the decisions more concrete than matters and contents are assumed on. In addition the work experience has shown to us that the document of Curriculum can be instrument that helps to the construction of some agreements or common senses, a few if they are wanted, but essential to be able to execute his work, to base a vision, differentiated at least in some from his parts, and before which, time and time again it will have to explain, to clarify and to clarify the implicit hypotheses in the founding of the degree in communication and culture.

From 50 mg tramadol beginning 50 mg tramadol the debates it appeared a discussion with two poles that in principle appeared like opposite or irreconcilable: Of a side, pill tramadol to consolidate very epistemologically to the pill tramadol like a discipline able to offer a pill tramadol and a method on phenomena of the reality pill tramadol social). Across, the transdisciplinaria perspective that would exactly inhale the opposite, to a maximum opening of the disciplinary fields, to the dilution 50 mg tramadol means of integral answers. The second slope was adopted especially by a colleague trained in cultural sociology, with special predilection by the Latin American cultural studies and the poscoloniales studies; a sense of opening and special interest as much by the famous works of Garci'a Canclini, Martin Barber like of Santiago Go'mez Castro or Walter Mignolo to indicate some 50 mg tramadol mentioned.

One of the first texts that we reviewed was the opening of social sciences, text almost-classic of the Gulbenkian Commission headed by order tramadol without prescription (1996). This text presents/displays a useful historical revision of how they are abren, finds and desencuentran social sciences. In the end a discussion happens exceeds how the conceptual opening must articulate to institutional disposition. Among the aspects that called personally me the attention is the 50 mg tramadol necessity of another dialogue with natural sciences, different from which imposed the positivista tradition of century XIX.

The debate in 50 mg tramadol Academy from 50 mg tramadol reading of this text, included in the first place the denotative definition of those great vector-movements (uni, multi, trans, post - disciplinary nature). It was necessary 50 mg tramadol contextualise as the disciplinary thing arose like an eagerness from control on the knowledge and the technology; the positivista paradigm considered that sciences would work 50 mg tramadol if their borders perfectly were 50 mg tramadol Later the interdisciplinary nature was arising like a necessity, supposed in some principle to retake the learnings of the positivismo. With the development and movement of the development of sciences one advances towards explanations more complex and differentiated from the world. This process, as it writes down Wallerstein, corresponded to an institutional form, to systems of classification in libraries, the organization of academic departments.

The transdisciplinaria tendency 50 mg tramadol our debate wanted to retake these learnings and exactly to walk in sense in pill tramadol to the project of the pill tramadol and its consequences, besides the basically excluding vision on the conditioners of the scientific knowledge. Two colleagues of the Academy, conscious of the concise one and diminished epistemologic development of the communication, we bet by the 50 mg tramadol in one more an organized 50 mg tramadol than it vindicates a certain degree of differentiation in the conceptual space destined to the communication, which generated resquemos in those who thought about one more a transdisciplinaria bet. This process occurred of parallel way to the classes in which already we were, in the dialogue with 50 mg tramadol of saberes, dynamic ages, very diverse horizons and with of work very different ones from as in the Academy we imagined that transition to some of the suggestions of the Gulbenkian Commission could occur.

One third position that I at least began to handle, wanted to surpass an UNI-discipline-institutional vision of the communication (that in fact is what many schools of communication have obtained when closing, even without possibility of exploring other dimensions of the thought in 50 mg tramadol or the possible excesses to which it was possible to be fallen in a species of equivocista and pill tramadol trans-discipline for a pre-degree course, went what I began to call disciplinary 50 mg tramadol day-logic. In the order tramadol without prescription there was the questioning on if it is understood by discipline, 50 mg tramadol linear and augmentative, monological and bulkhead, conceptual and nonproblematic something (that is of the characteristics that critical the Gulbenkian Commission of the disciplinary notion of the knowledge). My proposal was yes we grasped the disciplinary nature (from the communication) but with principles 50 mg tramadol or similar to which Beuchot has used in its analogical hermenéutica (Cf. Beuchot, 1999, 2001) and for example its debate on the universalisation of the human rights. So between a equivocista transdiciplina or the univocista disciplinary nature, would think about constructing to a disciplinary nature day-logic that is in the first place conscious of those aspects; the common aspects of the areas that with regard to the communication to each other; disciplines are abren, share their common spaces, but they do not disappear, nor they make some spaces much specific (which certainly are drained).

More than the bet by one it disciplines institutional of the communication (that pill tramadol what they have made the schools of communication when closing itself to means to very concrete aspects), but exactly a trans-discipline or rather a day-discipline of the phenomena of `concerns to a science of the communication like `difusión', expresión', `interacción' and `estructuración' of objects of knowledge. Almost the 100% than they say the communication schools is on means or technologies, when there are other enormous tie conceptual spaces that barely have been mentioned or in any case directly to the processes and phenomena around the 50 mg tramadol communication.

What 50 mg tramadol seemed to close 50 mg tramadol borders 50 mg tramadol possibility of a science of the communication), demands a day-logical and analogical project of the conceptual fields that form the thought in communication and that in some sense 50 mg tramadol to imitate to Bateson and Moles that believed in the possibility of a science of the communication when placing it like center of the social life.

The debate did 50 mg tramadol conclude; 50 mg tramadol routine character of the 50 mg tramadol practice absorbed some actors of that debate and perhaps 50 mg tramadol theoretical shade that assumed discouraged to others to add itself. But for some of us, it left the question more us if indeed this uni-trans-disciplinary debate does not comprise of a gradation, than an opposition, of surroundings more than a linear discussion. What effects have this on the curriculum? First of all, the one to base a race of communication and culture to the way of a Soft G.Bateson pill tramadol A., and so it implies for selection of matters, transversality, structural 50 mg tramadol of the curriculum and stimulus in educational practical 50 mg tramadol of the communication. In second, to 50 mg tramadol the step to consolidate the founding like pill tramadol space and to sometimes smooth the complicated way that allows to have a discussion to the communication with all the other areas of the knowledge (and we thought mainly about natural sciences).

The cultural approaches in communication
The 50 mg tramadol debates implicit in order tramadol without prescription proposal is on the order tramadol without prescription perspective of the communication, which is associated order tramadol without prescription the strong commitment to reflect on the own state of social sciences, the sense of the knowledge in Latin America.

The cultural thing in canonical sense is clear like a legacy of the English academy produced from its periphery in the English Midland and the formation of the Center for the Studies of the Contemporary Cultures in the sixty. Nevertheless, it cannot be accepted that there 50 mg tramadol 50 mg tramadol homogenous version of the Cultural 50 mg tramadol (EC); this type of studies has been diverse 50 mg tramadol specific in certain contexts. We agree with Payne 50 mg tramadol that any review of evolution of the EC erroneously tends to be coherent, although the reference to the School of Birmingham usually is an unquestionable fact.

The importance of 50 mg tramadol EC for the pill tramadol academic field of the communication pill tramadol something more than fundamental that a mere influence. For Galindo (2003) after the study of the sociopolitical effects that were so important for the Mass Communication Research and its fixed shrouds in Klapper or Lazarsfeld. The 50 mg tramadol great shaping element of 50 mg tramadol field is the EC to those who almost any subject related to the life (mainly urban) of the second part of century XX interests to them. Although they arise with local emphasis, its vocation is of generalization on the conditions of construction of the social 50 mg tramadol symbolic life of the actors who share the phenomena of the national, transnational companies. It is not easy to center to the thematic EC in dominant, but emancipatory critics can be named from their intentions and; the EC are pill tramadol properly an archipelago, this way they pill tramadol in principle to the communication by the study of his public and the phenomena of sociocultural configuration by the contact and impact of means and in the way have privileged four pill tramadol of study (young, social sort, minorities and movements); its inclusive perspective reaches historical, aesthetic, ecological aspects; it is not necessary to forget pill tramadol everything began in a Literature department, therefore if one more a more precise characterization were possible, would be necessary to order tramadol without prescription this aesthetic and literary accent in his origin.

When considering the cultural approach was necessary to make a history on the studies on the culture (and not necessarily cultural studies) for the Mexican case. First bastion than can to call EC in Mexico locates in University Independent Metropolitan where the first works of Jorge González, the contributions of the magazine stand out Communication and Culture (that Héctor Schmucler brought of Argentina and by some years it spread from Mexico), transcendental diffuser of the gramsciano thought; the work of Gilberto Giménez and Alberto Cirese, that was one of the main diffusers of Antonio Gramsci. The second generation we can locate it in the Mexican West; on the one hand in the ITESO with the masters in sociocultural studies (1985); the program Culture of the University of Sights on, its important magazine Studies on the Contemporary Cultures (number 1 is of September of 1986); it is possible to indicate that in his number 4-5 (February 1988) it appears 50 mg tramadol first part than the first investigation of 50 mg tramadol studies in communication of Mexico can be called on the Mexican soap operas.

The EC in pill tramadol have had one first preoccupation that has pill tramadol `recepción', `consumo', `mediación' of massive means like a complex process of negotiations and interpretations. The works of Morley, Lull, Ang, Jensen and Rosengren comprise of a bibliography (anglian) basic to conceptuar the main contributions that practically are in all the bibliographies. In Latin 50 mg tramadol to speak of cultural studies in communication are including different theories and conceptual marks as the theory from the cultural consumption of Garci'a Canclini (1995), the one of the cultural fronts of Jorge González (1987), the Active Reception of group CENECA in Chile, the social use of means of Martin Barber (1987) and the model of the multimediations of Guillermo Orozco.

It exhausts this perspective 50 mg tramadol the cultural consumption or studies of hearings the applications of the cultural approach in communication? It was a central subject in the debate pill tramadol we had; on the one hand clearly we recognized that the cultural dimension could not be run 50 mg tramadol theoretically in this mainstream, but at the same time this flow has been the dominant one in which it can be called cultural studies in communication. In the work party one 50 mg tramadol attitude exists towards this current, one of them accepting one to the degree to recognize it as the unique form to make make claiming social sciences when overvaluing its element of saberes common, of the diversity of the thought, the 50 mg tramadol of some actors treated like peripheral by other treatments. The other tendency, takes to us to accept them of partial way and to recognize some of the critics of which they have been object like the elaborated ones by Robert Follari, Jesus Galindo or Carlos Reynoso.

With base 50 mg tramadol the previous thing, the cultural approach of the Degree in Communication 50 mg tramadol Culture of the UACM some high-priority lines that were based in the Plan were the following axes: communication, values and culture, communication, 50 mg tramadol and democracy, symbolic communities, social identities and representations, communication and daily life, communication, culture and city that would be the semantic spaces in which mainly the production-diffusion-spreading of the 50 mg tramadol in the area is inhaled. The cultural thing tries to add itself to the attitude on the knowledge also wants to mean the peripheral dimension, social, educative the value that has saberes nonformal, the political sense of the knowledge and the academic work, within a varied agenda.

The cultural thing designates to a semantic pill tramadol ambiguous and criticizable, but also an atmosphere and surroundings pill tramadol whose more visible dimension - from pill tramadol point 50 mg tramadol view of the labor profile it is what we called the cultural 50 mg tramadol who abre to spaces such 50 mg tramadol the diffusion of the culture, the promotion, the cultural mediation in social organizations, the spreading of science; the extension of the model of glider of the communication 50 mg tramadol to the diverse social spaces. In the last version of the Curriculum (December of 2004), tenth on this space:

The order tramadol without prescription requires a level of understanding of order tramadol without prescription cultural processes and tendencies that are 50 mg tramadol order tramadol without prescription the world of the culture and the art and the order tramadol without prescription approaches of the cultural studies in the international scope. The effects of the globalisation and the urban concentrations, migrations bring about a division of our societies that has repercussions in the world of the culture. These knowledge have to indirectly find a balance between the 50 mg tramadol of the next contexts (local, regional, national, 50 mg tramadol with an ample vision of the globalised processes that 50 mg tramadol direct or in the different scopes of the cultural management. Of the main tasks it tells the presentation of proposals to different levels from the social and political reality. To this aim it is necessary to have a competition of negotiation between agents of different initiatives and the possibility from mediation in confluence processes and pill tramadol At the moment the management of cultural projects protests to work in complex systems of decision making and application of legal models very varied and in mixed systems of cooperation between the public sector, deprived and third order tramadol without prescription like in the management of the pill tramadol of the communitarian organs. In this frame the directive functions and of leadership 50 mg tramadol new complexities between the effectiveness of the management and the capacity to animate group processes very varied.

The dimension of communication of the culture talks 50 mg tramadol to 50 mg tramadol ways 50 mg tramadol forms 50 mg tramadol diffusion 50 mg tramadol the 50 mg tramadol one in which the disciplines and tools 50 mg tramadol the communication are important to plan, to construct and to evaluate the communicative processes in the cultural institutions. Although the 50 mg tramadol and the mass media, often, are far from the competitions of the Ministries of Culture or of the classic cultural organizations, we cannot stop demanding 50 mg tramadol greater attention to these aspects and to consider that in these spaces a professional in communication and culture would be of great value. The management of the culture has to introduce itself with more intensity in the communicative sector (it presses, means, etc.) tried to realise its 50 mg tramadol and to analyze the systems by which a greater joint exists. Of the 50 mg tramadol of this cultural signaller it 50 mg tramadol a greater diffusion and visibility of the cultural projects, trying one more a more active and contemporary presence to the systems of cultural communication.

It is possible 50 mg tramadol say to the finishing touch way, that institutional dynamics, the times, did not allow that pill tramadol pill tramadol these debates entered like so the founding of the curriculum in communication. A very kind glance to its last produced version (December 2004) lets see those contradictions and difficulties nonsolved, but at the same time, at least for the actors of the same, 50 mg tramadol confirms 50 mg tramadol hypothetical dimension and its limitations to us (like those of all curriculum). We rescue the deeply useful thing to generate these spaces that 50 mg tramadol develop in a field that to the first provocation it gives by seating the things and that in many occasions think that 50 mg tramadol the average ones it is enough (even though they say the opposite), and do not lack to strive to base to the communication like (day) discipline.

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